April 18, 2008
For the last time before the new Prophetic Guidance site, forum and community portal go up in the next few weeks insha’Allah, please take note of the following events, talks and the Riyadh’l-Salihin Weekend Maqra’ah retreat happening over the next month in and around Manchester. Those events with posters are included below:
- Fundraising Dinner for Crescent Community High School for Girls, Sanam’s Restaurant, 18th April, 6pm. See poster below.
- ”Palestine Appeal”, Saturday 26th April 2008 at Hijrah School (KD Grammar School for Boys, Alexandra Rd South, Whalley Range, Manchester. Call 0161 881 6200 or Aasiyah on 07934 699 382 or Robina on 07985 438 485.
All men, women and children welcome. Show your support. Donations welcome!
Entertainment for all: Stalls include food, Islamic clothing, toys, face painting, henna designs and much much more. Starts 2pm until 5pm.
- “Muslims in Britain: Hope or Hijrah?” event at CMA, 26th April 2008, 7.30pm. See poster below.
- “Gaza Appeal at the Eastern Pearl”, 10th May 2008. See poster below.
- Medical Ethics in Islam, 26th April 2008. Click this link.
- There will be another more intense Maqra’ah in Arabic only of the Sunan of Imam Abu Dawud (r) at Markaz’l-Bukhary again on the second May Bank Holiday Weekend, starting at 7pm on Friday night 23rd May all the way through until Monday evening on 26th insha’Allah, under the wonderful supervision of Shaykh Kehlan al-Juboori (hafidhullah).
Posters
April 18, 2008 at 11:09 am
can anyone tell me the evidence to say we should recite surah al kahf BEFORE the salat al jumuah?i know the hadith that relates it to be recited on fridays but i didnt know the hadith that mentions it to be done specifically before the salat.
April 18, 2008 at 1:34 pm
as-salamu’alaykum
Hope or Hijrah?
That seems to imply Hijrah is “Hopeless” or for the “Hopeless”.
Seems like having tawakkul in the promise of Allah for the muhaajireen goes out the window, in “modern western” muslim thought.
wa’alaykum as salam
April 18, 2008 at 6:18 pm
As salaam ‘alaikum..
I was wondering if the talk “Hope or Hijrah?” will be recorded and posted up?
Please advise
Baarak Allaahu feekum
April 19, 2008 at 11:54 am
Why can’t people accept difference of opinions?!?!!?
April 19, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Assalaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu,
This should be useful for the Suratul Kahf question inshaAllaah:
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=10700&ln=eng&txt=kahf%20friday
April 19, 2008 at 7:09 pm
jazakAllahukhayrn Umm Husamuddin.
April 19, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Wa ‘alaykum salam wa rahmatullah
Mcmood said, “Seems like having tawakkul in the promise of Allah for the muhaajireen goes out the window, in “modern western” muslim thought.”
(Big sigh and a roll of the eyes. And even a shake of the head)
Umm Husamuddin:
I don’t think your link works.
can anyone tell me the evidence to say we should recite surah al kahf BEFORE the salat al jumuah?
Actually, I hold that all the ahadith on the reading of al-Kahf on Friday are weak. Some said that when all the narrations have been combined, they strengthen each other. Hmm.
In any case, assuming the action is ok because of the action of the nation upon it and this reading falling into the more lenient actions insha’Allah, then there is nothing definitive in any of the narrations to suggest that is definitely better to read al-Kahf before Jumu’ah prayer. Rather the wording clearly indicates it should be before Maghrib on Friday itself.
Some argued that the word “light” in the word suggested the bright day time before Jumu’ah but I don’t think that stands. Thus, as long as you read it before Maghrib starts on Friday, insha’Allah you might be rewarded for your action and intention insha’Allah.
I was wondering if the talk “Hope or Hijrah?” will be recorded and posted up?
Normally the team at CMA record their stuff so it probably will go up a few weeks later on their site: http://www.cmatrust.org
AE
April 19, 2008 at 10:28 pm
AE
in which situations ARE weak hadith used?
here’s the link if you wanna try again
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=10700&ln=eng&txt=kahf%20friday
but it worked fine for me from the previous post
also this links mentions that sheikh al albani declared many of these hadith authentic..so as lay people how can we decipher between what you are saying and what such a great muhaddith has said…
jazakAllahu khayr
April 19, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Anon: wa jazak
April 20, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Wa ‘alaykum salam wa rahmatullah
Fortunately for you dear anon, the Adab videos that cover this question will be available very soon insha’Allah on the new PG site.
As for the next question, then the videos should deal with some of that and you’ll be glad to know that we’ll be having a hadith course for beginners intensive over the summer at Cheadle Masjid insha’Allah.
In the meantime, don’t worry about how you’re meant to decipher or not. If you don’t know how to, then that means you’re not meant to; rather you follow your teacher, the one you take your deen from until you get to that stage when you can decipher insha’Allah.
April 21, 2008 at 10:54 am
McMood said:
- Seems like having tawakkul in the promise of Allah for the muhaajireen goes out the window, in “modern western” muslim thought.
Gosh Mr.Anonymous (MCMOOD???), do you feel really clever after such a stupic comment? You hide behind anonymity and “imply” on what we do within our community based on a poster title? Is this what your Islam taught you, to assume, guess and imply the intentions of other people?
Why couldn’t you wait and see what the talk is about, something we asked our Imaam to do for a long time, or can’t you come? Too far? Are you too good for us? Oops I’d better stop this because I’d be falling into your style of implying things from your comments and attitude and I certainly wouldn’t want to do that.
For all the more respectful ones in the North, come downto what will be a really importqnt lecture.
April 21, 2008 at 1:12 pm
*Sigh*
April 21, 2008 at 4:26 pm
AE will the PG forum be better regulated than this one?
April 24, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Assalamu alaikum,
Will the hijrah talk not clash with Sheikh Kehlan’s circle?
April 25, 2008 at 9:30 pm
does anyone know if they are planning to get the talk done by maghrib time??is it likely to start prompt 7.30pm? it affects whether i can attend or not.
jazakAllahu khayrn
April 26, 2008 at 12:11 am
Salaam Ustadh AE,
Am interested in travelling up from London for R as-Saliheen maqra’ah, and have some questions for you.
Would you mind e-mailing me pls?
April 26, 2008 at 9:29 am
Assalamu alaikum Shaykh Abu Esa,
Thank you for your efforts to continue the tradition of maqra’ah. I was unaware of it until a student and an Islamic school in the US pointed me to your site.
If it is available, would you please share with me a recording of all or part of a session of a recent maqra’ah so that I may share it with the Alim course teachers at the Islamic school where I teach hifz.
If I had your email I would not send this request through your comments.
Also, thank you greatly for your to-the-point, and on-point scholarly advice that helps our communities regain the understanding and practice of our Islamically defined status quo for our sisters and for our men.
April 27, 2008 at 8:55 am
how did the lecture go? please give us some feedback? i would be interested in hearing what abu eesas opinions are on hijra
April 27, 2008 at 11:28 pm
i missed like most of the talk
food was good tho.
Tickets for Save Gaza Charity dinner are being sold at
Rochdale Dawah Centre
151 yorkshire st
rochdale
ol12 odr
world of islam
rusholme.
You can book a ticket on the ticket hotline numbers on the poster…
Please 4wd to ur contacts….
April 29, 2008 at 9:24 am
Wa ‘alaykum salam wa rahmatullah
Some old notes that the talk was based on (Hope or Hijrah) have now been posted.
The CMA have contacted those interested in the Maqra’ah. Please address queries to do with anything at the CMA to study@cmatrust.org
Finally brother Ali, I’ll email you soon insha’Allah.
PS: anyone wishing to contact me can leave a comment and their email in the requested box and I’ll be able to get back to them in due time insha’Allah. Just be patient!
Thanks,
AE.
April 29, 2008 at 8:18 pm
Abu Eesa,
Please can you help me with my question?!! I have asked a few people but to no avail…
I’ll re-post the question insha’Allaah
Abu Eesa,
I was wondering if you could help me with some information I am looking for (if you have time!). I am trying to find some depth and explanation on the saying attributed to Ali R.A about allowing children to play till they are 7, giving priority to their physical and emotional development. I would be exceptionally grateful if you know anywhere I can get more information, even the full text of the saying would help.
jazakallaahu khayr
May 1, 2008 at 8:06 pm
bumppp
May 2, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Assalamu ‘alaykum wa rahmatullah
Please can you help me with my question?!! I have asked a few people but to no avail…
I apologise for the delay (and anyone else who has sent me an email over the last 3-4 weeks, I sincerely apologise but I’ll be trying to sort out a response over the coming week insha’Allah as my inbox has gone into meltdown) in getting back to you.
The only statement that I can find to such effect, and I don’t have time to look into it further unless someone else can, is an uncorrobrated report attributed to Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (r), and not ‘Ali b. Abi Talib (r) and might have some contradiction in the text itself:
الغلام يلعب سبع سنين ويتعلّم الكتاب سبع سنين ويتعلّم الحلال والحرام سبع سنين
Considering this is probably not authentic and in the absence of a commentary, it could be translated in a few different ways i.e. “The child plays until seven years old, learns the Book at seven years old and learns what is halal and haram at seven years old.”
This is the one that makes most sense but it could also translate as, “The child plays until seven years old, learns the Book by seven years old and learns what is halal and haram by seven.”
And it could be something else as well: “The child plays until seven years old, then learns the Book for seven years and then learns the Halal and Haram for seven years.”
This last one could also be correct and make sense. Take your pick!
Personally, because it is inauthentic and has not been mentioned by the major scholars or in the major books, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. But in meaning, there is some support for the idea that overburdening the child before 6-7 years old has negative effects later or at least, no benefit. This has been shown in modern times by studies which have lead the Scandinavians to start education much later for children in complete contrast to the UK where the emphasis is on Nursery and Reception when the child is only 3 years old! And it seems that the Scandinavian kids are brighter too!
From a deeni point of view, we also want to take it easy but we are very well aware that the young child at 5-6 years old can memorise for fun - as the Arab proverb suggests, “memorising for the child is like etching in stone whereas for the adult it is like painting on water” - so we don’t want to waste the early years for the child and wish to get them into learning tajweed and the Qur’an and the basics of Deen at that early time.
As everything, it is a balance. I do believe that a child needs to develop as you suggest before you go in full-on, and thus seven is a good age to start to get serious, but let’s not also completely turn our back on the precious “sponge” years.
And Allah knows best.
May 4, 2008 at 11:00 am
Abu Eesa,
Jazakallaahu khayr for taking time out to answer my question !!!
wa’alaykumasalaam